Wednesday, 16 November 2011

In search of old Penguins.... [Updated 18/11/2011]

I have put the book reviews aside for a single post because I wanted to ask for some information from anyone who lives in the UK and who enjoys browsing through secondhand book shops, charity stores, and markets.

It has occurred to me lately that I need to take a break from my studies. I have a fascinating PhD topic, a small part of the research effort focused on understanding how HIV-1 mutates in response to the immune system of the person it has infected, but I am sure boredom is the enemy of anyone attempting to write a thesis. I need to escape from it for a while. My husband has very kindly offered to relieve me of my responsibilities for a few weeks early next year, and suggested that I hop on a plane to the UK and spend a few weeks wandering about in the villages of England or the suburbs of London continuing the search for Penguins to add to the collection. I know it would probably be cheaper to sit here at the computer in Perth and buy them through ebay, but I wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much.

In the past I have relied on serendipity to help me find bookshops stocked with vintage Penguins, and I like to think that I have been very fortunate. The moments when I stumbled across them on holiday will never be forgotten, and yet I remember the exact details so vaguely: there was a bookshop in Arundel, another below the pavement in Edinburgh (possibly in Leith Walk?), a charity store open on a Sunday afternoon in Oxford (perhaps on the Cowley Rd), an antique store in Castle Cary, and a market stall in Spitalfields market on a Sunday morning. And then there are the Oxfam stores: I found my first ever copy of Ariel in Kentish Town, and I love to walk the streets of Hampstead, through the churchyard of St John-at-Hampstead, ending up at the charity stores in West End Lane.

Unfortunately relying on chance doesn't always work. A few weeks after I returned from a family holiday that involved a lovely stay in the village of Frome, Yvonne of Fiction Books left a comment on this blog about a wonderful book store near Bath stocked with hundreds old Penguins. I must have only been a few miles away and yet I never found it. So this time I'm asking for help before I go.

I haven't settled on an itinerary yet, or even a time to go, although it will probably be in winter in order to avoid the crowds. Perhaps I will spend a few days in Amsterdam, catch the ferry to Newcastle, and then take a train to Liverpool. There are places near Liverpool that I would love to visit: Chester, Llandudno, possibly Portmeirion if I can work out how to get there on my own and without a car. Then to Lyme Regis, because the last two times I have tried to go there I have been prevented by snow, Oxford, and then London.

If you have any advice or recommendations, I would love to hear them. Is there any village I should particularly head to? Any shop that I shouldn't miss? If you have seen a stash of old Penguins for sale anywhere in the UK I would love to know.

In search of old Penguins: Part 2
Vintage Penguins in Amsterdam
Vintage Penguins in Newcastle
Vintage Penguins in Lyme Regis
Penguins and the Bristol archive
Vintage Penguins in London
Vintage Penguins in Oxford
Vintage Penguins in Adelaide (Aus)

*****Update*****
I just wanted to thank everyone who left a message in the comments below, or who contacted me by email or by twitter. When I get some time over the weekend I plan to sit here at the computer with google maps and a train/bus schedule and work out where all these places are, and see what is feasible. Having journeyed by car last year in the UK and seen the havoc caused by the snow and black ice, and dealt with the roundabouts, and the parking (though only as a passenger), I know that hiring a car would be far too stressful. In Western Australia country roads tend to be long, straight, wide, and empty.


In case anyone else is interested, the other suggestions that I have received which are not listed below are: Joel Segal in Exeter, Adelphi Books in Portsmouth, Book Cupboard in Plymouth, Charing Cross Rd in London, Scoob in London, and the mystery novel shop in Hay-on-Wye, courtesy of @CAPittard, @timesflow, @SimonTateBooks, and @detectivecritic on twitter.


Sarah, my email address is karynreevesATgmail.com. Simon, you are just lovely, and I would like nothing more than to come and say hello when I am in Oxford.


Thanks once again for all these wonderful suggestions,
Karyn

25 comments:

  1. if going to llandudno, the only bookshops in the area that i know of are 1. rhos on sea (though that might have closed, and may anyway have had not many penguin classics) 2. llandudno junction near the station (only open weekdays, but very good the two times i've been in) 3. two in colwyn bay apparently(i travel this journey by train so have never stopped off because there's little else to stop in colwyn bay for) 4. a terrible second hand shop in llandudno itself and an overpriced antiquarian a few doors down

    further afield: bangor had a good shop a couple of years ago, and near to portmeirion, harlech has a superb antique shop with a well stocked book section. most second hand bookshops are in machynlleth though

    (i'm a bit hazy on these because the last few years i've been to wales has been to visit my ill father and more recently to support my mother since his death. hopefully i'll have more time to explore the shops in future visits. hope these help)

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  2. How exciting! I stumbled upon a book shop/gift shop in Oxford when visiting this past September. It had stacks of Penguins but frustratingly for me they were all wrapped in plastic. Anyway, the name of the place escapes me but do ask StuckInABook.

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  3. what about Hay on Wye, the village full of bookshops? I don't know about penguins specifically, but it is a big concentration of 2nd hand bookshops.
    You could try The Londonist blog for info about London bookshops.
    The author Martin Edwards is very knowledgeable about the book trade - see his blog http://www.doyouwriteunderyourownname.blogspot.com/
    Also "Crimefiction reader" of It's a Crime blog is knowledgeable about the book trade -
    http://itsacrimeuk.wordpress.com/

    Maybe the way to do it is to have your trip coincide with one of the big literary festivals eg Cheltenham, Hay on Wye or Edinburgh book festival? In general, I am afraid you will find that there are far fewer second hand (or any) bookshops in the UK than on your last visit - though there are good Oxfam bookshops, maybe there is a listing on their website.

    It is quite easy getting around by train but it is expensive - it is cheaper the earlier you book. You might also want to check out coach travel between main cities which is a lot cheaper and is pretty fast.

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  4. Hay on Wye is the place for bookshops with shelves and shelves of second hand books in what seems like dozens of bookshops.
    If you wanted to take a route such as Chester, Llandudno, Portmeirion, HAY ON WYE, Bath, Frome, Totnes [another good place for second hand books] and Lyme Regis you would probably need a car or you would spend ages on buses. But the one place you should not miss is Hay on Wye.

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  5. Hello Karyn. That's quite an itinerary you have planned in the UK! As a general rule the orange penguins are much easier to find in 2nd hand books shops than the green crime ones although it is possible ot pick them up too. If you can get to Buxton there is a wonderful bookshop here called Scriveners. It really is one of a kind. It has a website here: www.scrivenersbooks.co.uk and was named as one of The The Guardian's top 10 second hand bookshops here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/gallery/2009/oct/02/secondhand-bookshops I have too much info for a single post - there are other places I can recommend. Can you give me an e-mail address or contact me direct though my blog? Incidentally I have a duplicate penguin crime book that I see you don't have and Ihave been meaning to send it to you. Again, if you drop me a line with your address I will stick it in the post.

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  6. There's a small stash in my local used bookshop - Newlyn Books in Penzance - but in general I don't find many numbered Penguins in the far south-west. Just the odd book here and there. Good luck on your quest!

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  7. I wouldn't worry about how to get to Portmeirion .... it's getting out that's the difficult part :)

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  8. If you end up in Edinburgh you should visit the Stockbridge part which has several charity/second-hand bookshops. English town markets can be a good source too but you have to find out their market day. On a recent trip I bought s/h books in Lincoln,Saffron Walden, Cambridge and Moffat(Scotland). I hope you have a great time!

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  9. My favourite second-hand bookshop is in Lyme Regis and I know it has shelves and shelves of old Penguins as I've brought quite a few there. It would certainly be worth a visit. The address is
    THE BOOKSHOP, The Old Bonded Store, Marine Parade, The Cobb, LYME REGIS, Dorset DT7 3JF Tel: 01297 444820
    However, it is worth phoning them because the opening hours are a tad erratic, especially out of season.
    There is a list of other interesting bookshops in the area at this website: http://www.oldbookssw.co.uk/listings
    But I would particularly recommend the bookshop on the Marine Parade, it's splendid.

    I hope you enjoy your trip and find some great books!

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  10. Oh, Karyn, do come to Oxford and say hello to me! The bookshop/giftshop Darlene mentioned is Arcadia - it's lovely, and does indeed have a fair number of Penguins, but not huge amounts. The Cowley Road bookshop you visited is now a hairdresser, sadly.

    I'm very intrigued as to the bookshop near Bath, will have to follow that up myself... Unless she means the Bookbarn (in the middle of nowhere, basically - south of Bristol, in Midsomer Norton) - that has LOADS of Penguins, and loads of books in general, although it gets fewer every year as they put more online. The last few times I went everything was £1 each, but they are putting the better stuff online. (You can buy 'online' goods there, but have to know what you're searching for.)

    My local bookshop in Crewkerne, Somerset has a bookcase or two of Penguins, but that isn't an uncommon sight in bookshops here. Wracking my brains now... Arcadia would definitely be your best bet in Oxford. Shamefully I don't know that much about the best bookshops in London - just the ones I always revisit.

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  11. maybe barter books in northumberland it is the uks largest secondhand book shop sure they'll have loads remember mention of a stall under a bridge in centre of london that did only penguins ,all the best stu

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  12. Thanks for the info about bookshops in Lyme Regis, Midsomer Norton and Crewkerne [my wife used to live there].

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  13. You say your Ph.D. is "focused on understanding how HIV-1 mutates in response to the immune system of the person it has infected."

    Fascinating!

    This doesn't seem like a question a statistician could answer, even theoretically, or do I misunderstand the nature of your work?

    Please explain!!

    As for helping you capture new penguins, I support it heartily but, alas, only know used bookstores in San Jose, Berkeley, San Francisco, and other literary backwaters in California.

    I'm always searching for you, just so you know.

    Best,
    Kevin

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  14. Hi Kevin,

    It is difficult to discuss statistics and make it sound interesting, but I will try.

    At Ph.D. level a statistician is looking at developing statistical techniques that anyone can apply to a dataset in order to find a pattern, and to separate signal from noise.

    In the case I'm working on there are thousands of possible candidates for experimental investigation, and because budgets are limited they need to select which ones to focus on, and that is a statistical problem - working out which associations between mutation in the viral sequence and alleles carried by the individuals infected are more likely to be indicative of a real effect, and which ones are probably due to chance or confounding.

    The underlying problem - the association between HIV-1 viral mutation and the HLA alleles carried by an individual host - is a fascinating story.

    HIV-1 mutates at an astonishing rate and basically evolves within each infected person to evade the defences of the immune system. Everyone has a different immune system, determined by the mix of alleles inherited at birth, and in the days before drug therapies existed HIV prognosis was partly determined by which alleles were carried. Understanding why might help in the development of a vaccine, and that is really the only long term hope for controlling the pandemic.

    I hope that explanation made some sense. I'm no natural mathematician; I studied statistics in order to be involved in medical research.

    And I am very touched by the idea that you might be thinking of me when you are browsing through book stores.

    Hope all is well,
    Karyn

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  15. I go to Barter Books in Alnwick (not far from Newcastle) quite regularly. Sometimes there are a handful of old Penguins, and sometimes more. I'd check online before visiting - although it is a wonderful bookshop to visit anyway! Their website is http://www.barterbooks.co.uk/

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  16. I was in London Oct 2010 and only London central so only book shops I got to were in Charing Cross. Books are generally more expensive there but there is a block of book shops directly across the street on Charing Cross Rd in Theatre District across the street from the entrance to Chinatown. There were three or four shops in a row and although two of them were high priced one was good. It has a basement and many Penguins were downstairs and sold for about 3 pounds per book. I bought about 15 of them and brought them home. Sorry don't know the name of it. tassiepenguinhunter

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  17. I've recently bought old Penguins in Black Gull Books (East Finchley, London N2 - the other branch is at Camden Lock, London NW1) and Brighton Books in Kensington Gardens, North Laines, Brighton. The former you could combine with a visit to the biggest cemetery in London, an atmospheric Victorian affair; and the latter with a bus ride to the village of Rottingdean, home of numerous writers from the past.

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  18. I suggest you visit the Village Bookshop in Penn, not least for its selection of old Penguins but for its olde worlde charm and the fact that its shelves are stacked floor to ceiling and typifies what a second hand bookshop should be like.

    I regularly enhance my collection of Penguins and Pelicans from there.

    Are you a member of the Penguin Collectors Society?

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  19. Get to Haworth in West Yorkshire the home of the Brontes. The village street has some great bookshops, and one particular one at the bottom is filled with pre ISBN penguins. Also go to Edinburgh, west port has five bookshops all with plenty of penguins, and also stockbridge in edinburgh which has a number of charity shops again with a really decent stock of penguins and pelicans

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  20. Here's the Christmas display at Black Gull Books mentioned above http://moblog.net/view/961793/black-gulls-christmas-window-for-karyn

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  21. I found a great one in the backstreets of Bournemouth a couple of years ago. I collect Penguin crime fiction in a small way and the chap there had literally dozens, including some unusual finds (as you'll be aware, it tends to be the same ones that appear over and again). My shelves: (this is around 1/3 of them actually!) http://www.terrascope.co.uk/images/penguincrime.jpg

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  22. I was at Bay Books in Colwyn Bay, on the North Wales coast just east of Llandudno, last March and they had a pretty decent range of old penguins in their own section (I got #666).

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  23. are you still looking for penguins I have boxes

    Bob
    daley@froggy.com.au

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  24. I have a box full of crime novels, mostly Penguins, from the 1950s-60s, which I have inherited and they need a loving home. Please get in touch if you are interested...
    frenches2 at gmail.com

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